Monday, July 26, 2010
Monday, January 11, 2010
Post Cataclysm - Back To Basics, April 10, 2010 - Stock Ammo War!!!
It's been one year since we had our first major war here in Chicago. Let's put Chicago on the map for good this time! Everyone from around the nation and Canada is cordially invited! This is all about getting back to our roots and having FUN!
When: April 10, 2010
Where: Centennial Park
9400 S Oak Park Ave
Oak Lawn, IL 60453
(It's the same old pic, blah blah blah)
Rules:
- Since the theme is Back to Basics, only stock darts will be allowed, with the exception that streamlines can only be used with N-Strike Clip System Blasters. If you have old stock megas and whatnot, now is the time to put them to good use!
- Don't be a douche
- Please no darkly painted/realistic looking Nerf Guns
- Manta Rays and Crossfire Shields are the only shields allowed.
- Hopper clips are banned
Here's what to bring:
- Nerf Blasters and backups in case of breakage
- Eye Protection, or else you won’t be able to play
- Ammo, I highly suggest writing your name on the stock darts or doing something to distinguish your own from everyone elses
- Lunch and Drinks, We’ll have 30 minutes for lunch and back to Nerf. If you're late, we're starting without you.
Banned Guns:
- Singled and plugged 4B's
- Singled Titans
- Pump Replaced Air guns
- Anything that is dangerous/unfair
When: April 10, 2010
Where: Centennial Park
9400 S Oak Park Ave
Oak Lawn, IL 60453
(It's the same old pic, blah blah blah)
Rules:
- Since the theme is Back to Basics, only stock darts will be allowed, with the exception that streamlines can only be used with N-Strike Clip System Blasters. If you have old stock megas and whatnot, now is the time to put them to good use!
- Don't be a douche
- Please no darkly painted/realistic looking Nerf Guns
- Manta Rays and Crossfire Shields are the only shields allowed.
- Hopper clips are banned
Here's what to bring:
- Nerf Blasters and backups in case of breakage
- Eye Protection, or else you won’t be able to play
- Ammo, I highly suggest writing your name on the stock darts or doing something to distinguish your own from everyone elses
- Lunch and Drinks, We’ll have 30 minutes for lunch and back to Nerf. If you're late, we're starting without you.
Banned Guns:
- Singled and plugged 4B's
- Singled Titans
- Pump Replaced Air guns
- Anything that is dangerous/unfair
Thursday, December 31, 2009
Cataclysm (My Little Plunger - TNG)
cat·a·clysm
n.
1. A violent upheaval that causes great destruction or brings about a fundamental change.
2. A violent and sudden change in the earth's crust.
I'm posting this a few months in advance to see if we can create the biggest Midwest war to date. We're trying to rival Armageddon and Apocalypse. I'd be happy to get half as many.
When:
Saturday, April 17rd, 2009 - 10:00 AM - exhaustion, or around 5-6 PM
Arrive at no later than 9:45 AM. First round start at 10:00 AM.
Where:*
Lake Ellyn Park
645 Lenox Road, Glen Ellyn, IL
*Location subject to change
What to bring:
-Your "A" game
-A good attitude
-At least one primary, preferably two if your's breaks.
-Spring powered single-shot pistol.
-Darts, a lot of them
-Eye Protection, if you're not wearing any, you don't play
-Lunch and water. There are a few places within driving distance in downtown Glen Ellyn. However it would be much easier to bag a lunch.
-Proper attire. I don't want to see some douche bags showing up in camouflage or I will personally beat you down and tell you to leave. It's also going to be April, which can be cold/rainy sometimes. Dress appropriately.
What not to bring:
SLINGSHOT WEIGHTED DARTS
-Only Slug darts, single BB, or stock darts are allowed. No exceptions. Breaking this rule will result in you never nerfing with us again.
-Pump plugged 4B's, LBB's, Nat Geo blasters, Titans or Signal launchers.
-Homemade air guns
-Anything else will be determined on a case-by-base basis determined by the hosts.
-Blasters that are painted black will be tossed in the lake. And that means RFDGs, and PASs. Put some bright colored tape on them or paint them a different color. Extremely bright blasters will be encouraged. We don't want any problems with the police.
-Anyone under the age of 13 will not be allowed to play. Mainly because I don't like children and legality issues.
Miscellaneous Information:
-Only shields that will be allowed are Manta's and Crossfire shields. Anything else will count as a hit. Gun hits do count.
-Barrel tapping is allowed, only if you have the gun loaded with a dart and primed. Cover your brass barrels!
-If you are being a douchebag I will ask you to leave.
-Please clean up after yourselves, we will be in a public park.
-Melee weapons will be allowed all gametypes except for Team Powerball and Defend the Core. Oversized melee shit will be banned. Use common sense, this is a Nerf war.
-Please refrain from yelling obscenities, we do not need the attention.
Round Schedule:
Arrive at no later than 9:45 AM. We will go over basic rules and safety. We will begin playing at 10:00. If you're not there and ready to go at 10:00, you'll miss the first round.
10:00 AM - Team Deathmatch
11:00 AM - Capture the Flag and variants
12:00 PM - Dart Sweep
12:15 PM - Lunch Break
1:00 PM - Multi-Team Deathmatch
2:00 PM - Team Powerball - Best of 3 rounds, 10 minutes each (rules will be posted)
3:00 PM - Dart Sweep
3:15 PM - Defend the Core - Best of 3 rounds, 10 minutes each
4:30 PM - Wingman
5:00 PM - Whatever we feel like/dart sweep
BEFORE YOU LEAVE - Clean up all your shit and help pick up darts.
I don't want to lose the priviledge of nerfing at this location by littering the park with nonbiodegradable foam. Same thing goes with trash. I'm going to bring garbage bags to set up near the staging area. Please be courteous. We have several backup locations if we need to move.
n.
1. A violent upheaval that causes great destruction or brings about a fundamental change.
2. A violent and sudden change in the earth's crust.
I'm posting this a few months in advance to see if we can create the biggest Midwest war to date. We're trying to rival Armageddon and Apocalypse. I'd be happy to get half as many.
When:
Saturday, April 17rd, 2009 - 10:00 AM - exhaustion, or around 5-6 PM
Arrive at no later than 9:45 AM. First round start at 10:00 AM.
Where:*
Lake Ellyn Park
645 Lenox Road, Glen Ellyn, IL
*Location subject to change
What to bring:
-Your "A" game
-A good attitude
-At least one primary, preferably two if your's breaks.
-Spring powered single-shot pistol.
-Darts, a lot of them
-Eye Protection, if you're not wearing any, you don't play
-Lunch and water. There are a few places within driving distance in downtown Glen Ellyn. However it would be much easier to bag a lunch.
-Proper attire. I don't want to see some douche bags showing up in camouflage or I will personally beat you down and tell you to leave. It's also going to be April, which can be cold/rainy sometimes. Dress appropriately.
What not to bring:
SLINGSHOT WEIGHTED DARTS
-Only Slug darts, single BB, or stock darts are allowed. No exceptions. Breaking this rule will result in you never nerfing with us again.
-Pump plugged 4B's, LBB's, Nat Geo blasters, Titans or Signal launchers.
-Homemade air guns
-Anything else will be determined on a case-by-base basis determined by the hosts.
-Blasters that are painted black will be tossed in the lake. And that means RFDGs, and PASs. Put some bright colored tape on them or paint them a different color. Extremely bright blasters will be encouraged. We don't want any problems with the police.
-Anyone under the age of 13 will not be allowed to play. Mainly because I don't like children and legality issues.
Miscellaneous Information:
-Only shields that will be allowed are Manta's and Crossfire shields. Anything else will count as a hit. Gun hits do count.
-Barrel tapping is allowed, only if you have the gun loaded with a dart and primed. Cover your brass barrels!
-If you are being a douchebag I will ask you to leave.
-Please clean up after yourselves, we will be in a public park.
-Melee weapons will be allowed all gametypes except for Team Powerball and Defend the Core. Oversized melee shit will be banned. Use common sense, this is a Nerf war.
-Please refrain from yelling obscenities, we do not need the attention.
Round Schedule:
Arrive at no later than 9:45 AM. We will go over basic rules and safety. We will begin playing at 10:00. If you're not there and ready to go at 10:00, you'll miss the first round.
10:00 AM - Team Deathmatch
11:00 AM - Capture the Flag and variants
12:00 PM - Dart Sweep
12:15 PM - Lunch Break
1:00 PM - Multi-Team Deathmatch
2:00 PM - Team Powerball - Best of 3 rounds, 10 minutes each (rules will be posted)
3:00 PM - Dart Sweep
3:15 PM - Defend the Core - Best of 3 rounds, 10 minutes each
4:30 PM - Wingman
5:00 PM - Whatever we feel like/dart sweep
BEFORE YOU LEAVE - Clean up all your shit and help pick up darts.
I don't want to lose the priviledge of nerfing at this location by littering the park with nonbiodegradable foam. Same thing goes with trash. I'm going to bring garbage bags to set up near the staging area. Please be courteous. We have several backup locations if we need to move.
Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Saturday, December 12, 2009
Friday, December 11, 2009
Dart Weight Regulations/Range Testing
So I decided to officially range test multiple combinations of different weighted darts and blasters. I range tested all of these shots indoors on the approaches at the bowling alley. So all of these ranges include 5-10' dart skip. I also wanted to make a point to see which types of darts hurt more or cause more welts. All darts are made from Ace brand foam in 12" PETG (3k), 16" Polyester (+bow), 2.5" CPVC (Nitefinder). I shot them at the bowling alley from lane 3 to lane 30 where there is a wall. All the shots that went 150 hit that wall on a fly.
Range Tests
1/4" Slingshot - AT3K
135,140,150, 150, 150, 133, 142,148, 150, 130
-------------------
~142.8'
1/4" Slingshot - Plusbow
125, 150, 142, 135, 128, 138, 139, 123, 150, 144
--------------------
~137.4'
1/4" Slingshot - Nitefinder
62, 55, 60, 69, 55
---------
~60.2'
Copper BB - AT3K
117, 122, 132, 130, 121, 132, 118, 127, 124, 115
-------------
~123.8'
Copper BB - Plusbow
108, 113, 102, 117, 122, 130, 120, 116, 121, 105
--------------
~115.4'
Copper BB - Nitefinder
50, 52, 56, 53, 54
-------------
~53'
Washer + Felt Disc - AT3K
112, 113, 115, 117, 118, 115, 116, 111, 113, 119
---------------
~114.9'
Washer + Felt Disc - Plusbow
100, 100, 104, 105, 107, 109, 115, 109, 110, 103
----------------
~106.2'
Washer+ Felt Disc - Nitefinder
52, 50, 52, 44, 49
-------------
~49.'
Single BB - AT3K
60 (No idea), 108, 140 (WTF?), 109, 126, 115, 125, 111, 108, 130
------------
~110.5'
Single BB - Plusbow
68, 102, 106, 116, 123, 108, 113, 118, 122, 108
---------
~108.4'
Single BB - Nitefinder
40'
43'
46'
48'
44'
---------
~44.2'
Conclusions from range tests
This data turned out beautiful. The 3k and the Plusbow were pretty close in range for all different weights. The 3k seems to be just a bit more powerful than the Plusbow. From slingshot ammo to copper BB's, the 3k and the +bow lose roughly 20' in range. The Nitefinder only loses about 7' in range. The next furthest darts were Slug darts. Plusbows with good barrel/dart fit are now only hitting a little over 100'. Nitefinders only lose ~4' from copper BB's. Single BB's were very close to all the Slug darts. The Plusbow actually shot further with single BB's as opposed to Slug darts. Nitefinders lose another couple feet in range.
As you can see, the less the weight, dramatically effects the super higher powered blasters and makes them a lot safer. This way we wouldn't have to impose bans on blasters due to safety issues. One interesting thing in the data was the range results from the Slug darts. All of them seemed to land within a couple feet of each other. Probably because each dart is weighted exactly the same, where some darts may have more hot glue than others in a traditional stefan. But there are two more aspects of the darts other than just range. I wanted to see how much they hurt, and how accurate they were.
Pain factor
I was willing enough to let my co-worker shoot me from 50' away with the 3k and the Plusbow. We tested all four dart weights. I let him shoot me first with the slingshot weights to get it out of the way. Shots from both the 3k and Plusbow left nice welts on my back. I'd say they equally hurt the same, which is a great deal of pain. Then I let him shoot me with the copper BB's. Hurt almost just as much as the slingshot weights. I noticed a bigger decrease in pain from the 3k though, but it was still quite painful. These shots didn't leave welts, but made the skin very red. Next were Slug darts. Wow, what a difference. The felt tips and the flat surface instead of a hard dome, is much better. They still hurt from only 50' away, but they feel a lot better than having to be shot with a slingshot weight. I let him shoot me a few extra times with the felt discs and tried shooting against bare skin. Not to my surprise they didn't leave any welts from point blank ranges. Single BB darts had basically the same results although they were more damaging to skin compared to Slug darts. This is most likely due to the hot glue dome. A point blank shot left a welt on my arm.
Accuracy
1/4" Slingshot weights are just ridiculously accurate darts if you make them right. I don't think I need to go in detail there. Copper BB's were equally as accurate, but there were a couple shots that curved to the side. The BB's are so small, it's difficult to get the weight perfectly centered. Since slingshot weights are so large, they are easier to center in the foam, and usually are more accurate. Single BB darts had pretty much the same results as the Copper BB's. They are hard to get the weight centered and a few shots went in strange directions. Slug darts were the most accurate next to slingshot weights. Since they are effortless to make, they usually fly perfectly straight with ease. Even ones where the washer aren't perfectly centered fly straight.
Final thoughts and comments
Slug darts seem the way to go. They have so many upsides. They are cheap, easy to make, hurt significantly less that traditional hot glue stefans, and only get ranges similar to a single BB weighted dart. If people didn't have the materials, or couldn't get the supplies for making Slug darts, I think single BB darts should be also allowed. And obviously we would still allow stock darts. Basically banning slingshot weights, and copper BB's. I'm not sure why copper BB's shoot so much further. I thought to believe they were the same weight as single BBs, but I believe these might be the heavier variants of copper BB's that weigh 0.45g as opposed to 0.33 grams a steel BB weighs. Although I'm not entirely sure. These BB's were jacked from someone else's darts from my community bucket. But the copper weighted darts definitely out ranged Slug darts and steel BBs. Slingshot weights are something around 1.2 or 1.3 grams I believe.
This also proves that lowered powered blasters become more effective with lighter darts. High powered blasters are losing 30-40' off of their max range, while pistols are losing 10'.
=============================
I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.
Range Tests
1/4" Slingshot - AT3K
135,140,150, 150, 150, 133, 142,148, 150, 130
-------------------
~142.8'
1/4" Slingshot - Plusbow
125, 150, 142, 135, 128, 138, 139, 123, 150, 144
--------------------
~137.4'
1/4" Slingshot - Nitefinder
62, 55, 60, 69, 55
---------
~60.2'
Copper BB - AT3K
117, 122, 132, 130, 121, 132, 118, 127, 124, 115
-------------
~123.8'
Copper BB - Plusbow
108, 113, 102, 117, 122, 130, 120, 116, 121, 105
--------------
~115.4'
Copper BB - Nitefinder
50, 52, 56, 53, 54
-------------
~53'
Washer + Felt Disc - AT3K
112, 113, 115, 117, 118, 115, 116, 111, 113, 119
---------------
~114.9'
Washer + Felt Disc - Plusbow
100, 100, 104, 105, 107, 109, 115, 109, 110, 103
----------------
~106.2'
Washer+ Felt Disc - Nitefinder
52, 50, 52, 44, 49
-------------
~49.'
Single BB - AT3K
60 (No idea), 108, 140 (WTF?), 109, 126, 115, 125, 111, 108, 130
------------
~110.5'
Single BB - Plusbow
68, 102, 106, 116, 123, 108, 113, 118, 122, 108
---------
~108.4'
Single BB - Nitefinder
40'
43'
46'
48'
44'
---------
~44.2'
Conclusions from range tests
This data turned out beautiful. The 3k and the Plusbow were pretty close in range for all different weights. The 3k seems to be just a bit more powerful than the Plusbow. From slingshot ammo to copper BB's, the 3k and the +bow lose roughly 20' in range. The Nitefinder only loses about 7' in range. The next furthest darts were Slug darts. Plusbows with good barrel/dart fit are now only hitting a little over 100'. Nitefinders only lose ~4' from copper BB's. Single BB's were very close to all the Slug darts. The Plusbow actually shot further with single BB's as opposed to Slug darts. Nitefinders lose another couple feet in range.
As you can see, the less the weight, dramatically effects the super higher powered blasters and makes them a lot safer. This way we wouldn't have to impose bans on blasters due to safety issues. One interesting thing in the data was the range results from the Slug darts. All of them seemed to land within a couple feet of each other. Probably because each dart is weighted exactly the same, where some darts may have more hot glue than others in a traditional stefan. But there are two more aspects of the darts other than just range. I wanted to see how much they hurt, and how accurate they were.
Pain factor
I was willing enough to let my co-worker shoot me from 50' away with the 3k and the Plusbow. We tested all four dart weights. I let him shoot me first with the slingshot weights to get it out of the way. Shots from both the 3k and Plusbow left nice welts on my back. I'd say they equally hurt the same, which is a great deal of pain. Then I let him shoot me with the copper BB's. Hurt almost just as much as the slingshot weights. I noticed a bigger decrease in pain from the 3k though, but it was still quite painful. These shots didn't leave welts, but made the skin very red. Next were Slug darts. Wow, what a difference. The felt tips and the flat surface instead of a hard dome, is much better. They still hurt from only 50' away, but they feel a lot better than having to be shot with a slingshot weight. I let him shoot me a few extra times with the felt discs and tried shooting against bare skin. Not to my surprise they didn't leave any welts from point blank ranges. Single BB darts had basically the same results although they were more damaging to skin compared to Slug darts. This is most likely due to the hot glue dome. A point blank shot left a welt on my arm.
Accuracy
1/4" Slingshot weights are just ridiculously accurate darts if you make them right. I don't think I need to go in detail there. Copper BB's were equally as accurate, but there were a couple shots that curved to the side. The BB's are so small, it's difficult to get the weight perfectly centered. Since slingshot weights are so large, they are easier to center in the foam, and usually are more accurate. Single BB darts had pretty much the same results as the Copper BB's. They are hard to get the weight centered and a few shots went in strange directions. Slug darts were the most accurate next to slingshot weights. Since they are effortless to make, they usually fly perfectly straight with ease. Even ones where the washer aren't perfectly centered fly straight.
Final thoughts and comments
Slug darts seem the way to go. They have so many upsides. They are cheap, easy to make, hurt significantly less that traditional hot glue stefans, and only get ranges similar to a single BB weighted dart. If people didn't have the materials, or couldn't get the supplies for making Slug darts, I think single BB darts should be also allowed. And obviously we would still allow stock darts. Basically banning slingshot weights, and copper BB's. I'm not sure why copper BB's shoot so much further. I thought to believe they were the same weight as single BBs, but I believe these might be the heavier variants of copper BB's that weigh 0.45g as opposed to 0.33 grams a steel BB weighs. Although I'm not entirely sure. These BB's were jacked from someone else's darts from my community bucket. But the copper weighted darts definitely out ranged Slug darts and steel BBs. Slingshot weights are something around 1.2 or 1.3 grams I believe.
This also proves that lowered powered blasters become more effective with lighter darts. High powered blasters are losing 30-40' off of their max range, while pistols are losing 10'.
=============================
I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks.
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